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Zen
Interesting. On the topic of sentience: I personally think that every thoughtform we make, including really basic ones like the ones we use for empathy are innately sentient. I think it's a trick of the brain that we dissociate from these things in order to maintain a cohesive perspective and personality. The alternative is, effectively, psychosis, where you cannot reduce the volume of these thoughts to a safe level. As for parroting, it's something you can test if you're doing. Intentionally move their form for them. Then allow them to automatically move.
ok thanks @Zen
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berockly (TTG) 9/26/2021 6:18 PM
I can feel lynn's presence growing stronger by the day
6:18 PM
I think Her calming me downcast night was a combination of puppeting and her communicating emotions to me
6:19 PM
Regardless of which one it is it has apparently made her much stronger
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berockly (TTG)
I can feel lynn's presence growing stronger by the day
Lizardlicker 9/26/2021 6:28 PM
Imagine
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I've been sick the past few days and I haven't been able to talk to Mary as much I know it's okay and normal but I feel bad
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Lula! | 👻 9/28/2021 5:09 AM
I'm sorry you feel bad, but yeah it will pass! 😊
5:11 AM
A lot of people run into the problem, it reminds me of:
A student went to his meditation teacher and said, "My meditation is horrible! I feel so distracted, or my legs ache, or I'm constantly falling asleep. It's just horrible!" "It will pass," the teacher said matter-of-factly. A week later, the student came back to his teacher. "My meditation is wonderful! I feel so aware, so peaceful, so alive! It's just wonderful!' "It will pass," the teacher replied matter-of-factly.
5:12 AM
Maybe you can take the time to just tell her what you think of her and feel about her.
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:) I like that Thank you I feel better I will do that
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Lula! | 👻 9/28/2021 5:22 AM
I'm glad! And I hope you start feeling better too! 😊
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Lula! | 👻
A lot of people run into the problem, it reminds me of:
A student went to his meditation teacher and said, "My meditation is horrible! I feel so distracted, or my legs ache, or I'm constantly falling asleep. It's just horrible!" "It will pass," the teacher said matter-of-factly. A week later, the student came back to his teacher. "My meditation is wonderful! I feel so aware, so peaceful, so alive! It's just wonderful!' "It will pass," the teacher replied matter-of-factly.
Haha I love the anecdote
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Meditation teacher!!!! That's my boy Joshu
11:01 AM
One of his koans Well probably a pretty common story though
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Since I am trying to act like one person I started to feel much closer to tulpas that don't switch. Just doing stuff together with your imaginary friends is also a valid and meaningful tulpamancy, it feels good to be reminded of that.
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At least from my experience, reintegration is extremely valid and meaningful, and I wish more people considered experimenting with that
12:42 PM
Reintegration requires but also provides self-acceptance, which is something that I think a lot of people need (edited)
12:43 PM
Especially people struggling with loneliness, and isn't loneliness the most common reason people go into tulpamancy?
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Deleted User
At least from my experience, reintegration is extremely valid and meaningful, and I wish more people considered experimenting with that
berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 12:44 PM
What is that?
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Deleted User
Especially people struggling with loneliness, and isn't loneliness the most common reason people go into tulpamancy?
I am still not sure how it's helping with that aspect tbh.
12:48 PM
how or if?
12:49 PM
How (edited)
12:49 PM
But does it?
12:49 PM
I am not sure yet in my case.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 12:50 PM
What is
12:50 PM
Re integration
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If it helps, then it doesn't matter how and why really (edited)
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berockly (TTG)
What is that?
In my case I'm just trying to keep the same identity regardless of what mask I put on.
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Deleted User
If it helps, then it doesn't matter how and why really (edited)
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Deleted User
In my case I'm just trying to keep the same identity regardless of what mask I put on.
berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 12:52 PM
Wdym by that
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berockly (TTG)
Wdym by that
@Deleted User is my tulpa. But we decided to have just one name here and act like we are just Mon.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:01 PM
Oh ok
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Reverse tulpamancy
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 9/28/2021 1:08 PM
I think it's interesting integration and merging are a more diverse spectrum than we previously thought. We knew about and had personal experience with integration and merging, but some systems do kind of both where you have a tulpa who can "become" their headmates or express the others as if they were parts of a whole
1:09 PM
I think it's a shame some systems felt too scared to stick around because they embraced integration or becoming median.
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I’m still here!
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 9/28/2021 1:10 PM
In the past, not right now lol
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I know I know lol
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:10 PM
I have been pretty median already.
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 9/28/2021 1:10 PM
I think the culture here has shifted to be more welcoming for those who do make that choice.
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:11 PM
So acting like one person is pretty natural for me. (edited)
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 9/28/2021 1:11 PM
I think it's sad that we didn't see more systems stick around because of it
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Plurality is one of the least important reasons why this community is appealing to me (edited)
1:13 PM
I just like people here and in depth conversations
1:13 PM
I came here because of plurality, stayed for the friends
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:15 PM
Yea
1:15 PM
The community is great
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 9/28/2021 1:16 PM
We are sticking around because Ranger wants to be a master tulpamancer and publish her guides.... Eventually
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berockly (TTG)
The community is great
Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:16 PM
You are here for like 3 days?
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:17 PM
Seems fun
1:18 PM
Honestly
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Gray | Shadow System
We are sticking around because Ranger wants to be a master tulpamancer and publish her guides.... Eventually
Should we refer to Ranger as she/her?
1:18 PM
Or is it fluid?
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A long kiss goodnight 9/28/2021 1:18 PM
You can if you want too. I have no idea how much that will catch on
1:19 PM
I'm not fluid like the way Gray is, I'm trying to desensitize myself to she/her
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:19 PM
But I agree, for a tulpamancy community, this one is the best I've been to so far.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:20 PM
Tulpa central has a little more hostility
1:20 PM
So its a nice balance
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VIXIE | 👻 BOT 9/28/2021 1:21 PM
ohhhh man, TCen, lol
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A long kiss goodnight 9/28/2021 1:21 PM
I don't know if Tulpa Central is hostile in general or hostile to different types of system (aside from OSDD/DID systems, but that's a given)
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berockly (TTG)
Tulpa central has a little more hostility
Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:22 PM
A lot of plural communities are just toxic af. I think @proxi said many times that unstable people have tendency to drag each other down and in communities like that, people are expected to be unstable.
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A lot of plural communities are just toxic af. I think @proxi said many times that unstable people have tendency to drag each other down and in communities like that, people are expected to be unstable.
berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:23 PM
Li?e this one girl with DID
1:24 PM
I went into a server explaining very basic tulpamancy concepts and she attacks me saying im taking DID validation away
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:24 PM
People affected by DID are unstable by definition.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:24 PM
The next day i call her bro and she attacks me saying "im a girl please dont call me that"
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I wasnt even referring to her as a male
1:25 PM
She is just insecure abt her fucking idk
1:25 PM
srry
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:25 PM
Most of them have been traumatized in childhood, it's totally expected for them to be like that in social interactions.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:25 PM
I just dont like snowflakes
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That's them
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Lily | 👻 BOT 9/28/2021 1:26 PM
Sorry, thought we were still talking TCen
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A lot of plural communities are just toxic af. I think @proxi said many times that unstable people have tendency to drag each other down and in communities like that, people are expected to be unstable.
Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:26 PM
I'm so unstable that just thinking about did communities makes me fall apart, noone unstable should want to have me around! (edited)
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berockly (TTG)
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:27 PM
Ah we talked about that
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A long kiss goodnight 9/28/2021 1:27 PM
I don't think it's nice to draw attention to that system like that. I don't want to encourage people to go after them, that system doesn't need that
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:27 PM
I wasnt even refering to her as a male
1:27 PM
And plus her name says they/them
1:27 PM
So wtf does it matter
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:28 PM
Some people are precious about gendered words
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A long kiss goodnight 9/28/2021 1:29 PM
Some individuals have been abused for trying to be the gender they want to be. While I agree their reaction was extreme, the context probably stems from insecurity and/or abuse
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Lily | 👻 BOT 9/28/2021 1:29 PM
Well also "bro" is just an obnoxious word anyway, period.
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:29 PM
Well
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:29 PM
Just start using "sib", it's 2021!
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:30 PM
The contest was she was mad that she was getting kicked from a selling server bc of ToS
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Context*
1:30 PM
I said
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Deleted User
Just start using "sib", it's 2021!
Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:30 PM
Ok, sib 🤪
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:30 PM
"Bro its just not allowed"
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:31 PM
I think people have right to ask others to not use certain words when referring to them
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1:31 PM
And you don't really need to give you explanation (edited)
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/28/2021 1:32 PM
You can use 'fam' instead
1:32 PM
if you are brave enough
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Deleted User 9/28/2021 1:32 PM
but fam is his ex 🙈
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Deleted User
I think people have right to ask others to not use certain words when referring to them
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/28/2021 1:32 PM
I mean if you can type it, you have the right
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Lily | 👻 BOT 9/28/2021 1:33 PM
I think people have right to ask others to not use certain words when referring to them
@Deleted User - jump Bingo!
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/28/2021 1:33 PM
block button is also a right, in the same sense
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A long kiss goodnight 9/28/2021 1:33 PM
With some traumatic systems, you have to be gentle in how you interact with them. When I first entered a DID/OSDD only server I recoiled when I saw the trigger warnings and I reacted in a way I think is pretty embarrassing (even though I kept that reaction to myself). However, I was able to learn from that experience and adjust my temperament. I don't have a problem with bro, I don't think you have to stop using it. However, I think it's polite to be mindful of what other people do and don't like and use a different word around those individuals
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berockly (TTG) 9/28/2021 1:34 PM
Really it just caught me off gaurd
1:34 PM
Lynn calmed me down but
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